Sorry smackers, I was out having a bit of fun and didn't notice we've crossed our 100 post fresh page agreement!! Forgive me? :)
Also I wanted to let you guys know that, one of us, a blogger named Stephinka, who bravely shared her personal thoughts on PTI with us here in a link subsequently had it posted directly to the PTI forum without her ageeement or knowledge.. I have just read on her blog that she has been admitted to the hospital. Shall we all share some love (not smack) for her on her blog for our trooper who took one for the team?
P.s. a certain J of the customer communications director whatever bullshit of a new position even asked Stephinka to remove her name from her blog post, which Stephinka actually had did so for her, but we all know who she is anyway just wanting to save her name from being trashed.
Sooooo.... any smackers got their new release already or did you think it was a big flop of one with this crap excuse of a site? And are you going to finally stop shopping with them after the great points made on that review post by Stephinka? I know I am over it, just need to use up my stupid points damn it. And really, ribbonshare girl? STOP.
149 comments:
Poor Stephinka, I hope she feels better soon.
Way to take one for the team Steph! Get well soon. Just like you, PTI Smacker III, I have a $17.00 credit with PTI. I want to place an order to use it up but I can't stand to spend anymore money with them based on all of their f*cked up issues. The last time I ordered with them was Aug 2011.
So what should I do? Use up the credits or stick to my code of ethics?
15:21 Definitely use up all the credits and nothing more! Hee hee, they already got your money for those credits (clearly they set their earnings up for this so you paid for this) now it's just up to you to collect what should be yours. Perhaps use it all on cardstock so the shipping you pay for such heavy items is well justified, and dont give them a cent more for anything else.
Stephinka, sorry to hear you are under the weather. Hope you are feeling better soon.
15:21, absolutely, use your credits!! You earned them and if you don't use them, it's like PTI wins again.
Sorry for stephinka being sick, but I don't feel too bad about the donna c stuff. Not sure what Steph expected, posting here and on her blog?
I hope Stephinka feels better soon.
18:35 I agree. What did she expect?
I think that Donna C is in the wrong. IMO she treated the forum like a smack blog by posting "juicy gossip" on it. There is a difference between the 2 communities and I would hope for future reference that we all know the difference and are more cognizant about posting the right content in the right place.
And another example of:
1) How posting to the forum will get you a response faster than emailing CS
2) The multiple personality disorder of PTI CS. From Jennifer: "we don't address individual order questions on the forum due to privacy concerns". They addressed so many individual order questions on the forum already. Now suddenly the policy has changed?
http://forum.papertreyink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31127
(sigh)
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I've used my points and I'm gone from there.....I paid a couple of bucks difference so i got a big order for nothing.
If I didn't have my anniversary set I would be posting a new message every day so it was kept up the top and everyone could see it. I would NOT go away. That's what they are hoping, people will just give up.
I think I'm going with Waltzingmouse this month, they have some great looking releases coming out - and I love how they put the sneak peeks on the website, ties it all together.
http://forum.papertreyink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31313
whoops! Anyone at PTI do any double-checking anymore?
This isn't the first time they've had problems with sets. I think no one proofs or checks (in the case of translations) anything. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy work.
I'm going with Waltzingmouse, too. Such unique, fresh looks!
I am going with WMS too this month.
What's up with WMS's website? I'm using Safari and I show that the latest release is Christmas stamps. Then I went to the "Shop By Release" and the most recent month is listed as August 2011.
I do think WMS is a great replacement for PTI - I guess I am a confused newbie.
Would love to buy from WMS but want more modern clean designs ...
^^ I agree, I heard that WMS has great CS but want more modern sets ... maybe those will be coming?
Try Lawn Fawn. They've got a new release coming up at the end of the week. Great designs that are good for coloring or paper piecing. Plus, the owner Kelly Marie is a gem who responds to emails herself instead of giving customers the runaround. Check them out.
Does anyone else feel that the negative tone on this thread is going too far for the forum?
http://forum.papertreyink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31127
10:54, I just went to WMS' site via Safari and the home page is announcing the new stamps to be released on the 29th.
I also tried the ship by release and don't see Claire's last release of November 2011 listed.
Check out her blog at
waltzingmouse.blogspot.com
for all the latest news, contents, sneaks, etc.
^^^ Thanks!
Actually, 13:27, that's pretty mild for the forum.
People are upset and rightly so. No actions to make it better are taken. More and more are saying "I'm outta here".
I have been quietly watching this entire debacle unfold over the last months. I've never had any issues with PTI CS. But I am VERY hesitant to spend any of my hard earned money with them anymore. I don't understand why people complain about them but then still give their money to them. Of course they are laughing all the way to the bank. Of course they aren't going to change their ways. Why should they? This month's release was probably one of the biggest sellers they've had. And wtf is going on with that joke of a new website?! I've seen smaller companies with much nicer websites. That actually WORK! Clearly this company is being run by a bunch of elementary minded people. I really want them to get their act together. But sadly, I've been wishing for that to happen for YEARS now.
Anyone want to bet how long it will take before Ted gives in and orders stamps from PTI? I'm thinking right around 18 days!
I am so glad I discovered this blog.
1) My first run in with PTI CS was two years ago - the pack of brown cs that I had gotten was a bit short - I mean instead of being 11 inches, it was 1/8 inches short. The whole pack. I wrote to CS - J comes back and tells me that I need to ship her the whole pack back (for which I need to spend money) and after they inspect it to make sure I am telling the truth, they might send me another pack or refund my money. But if I am wrong - then I can go %*^*^& myself. I was like WTF? I told her that I am not spending money shipping it to her and that was the last I bought any PTI Cardstock. I have been buying GKD Cardstock.
I had bought a few GKD Stamp sets and one of them had the right index sheet but wrong stamp set inside, I sent an email to them. They told me that I could keep the wrong stamp set they had sent to me as an apology from their side and they shipped me the correct stamp set and guess what the index sheet for the wrong stamp set that they had sent to me. I mean that is customer service.
2) My second run in with CS was when I got Matstack 4 stamp set and two of the stamp sets were torn. Even before I did anything with them, straight out of the pocket. I took a photo and emailed it to CS. Again they want me to mail the torn stamp back to them and they will replace it. I am like I understand the replacing part, but not sure why I have to ship the torn stamp image.
I had the same thing happen to me once with Hero Arts stamp set. One of the clear stamp was torn. I sent an email. Next day response was that they are going to replace it and I was shocked to see that they replaced the entire set, not that one torn image. I was like WOW.
It might be the case that GKD and Hero Arts are much bigger companies than PTI, but as some one said, PTI Cannot be small company for five years with so much of releases and cannot have growing pains for 5 years.
I also have 14 reward points. Just waiting to get some cash, will place an order and be done with them. As it is I have not placed an order with PTI since long long time.
I get so irritated with some of the forum members as well. I mean I am spending some of my hard earned money at PTI and for sure want to get answers.
Makes no sense why PTI can't just get the fundamentals down. It's basic business practice ppl.
No, we don't know what goes on behind the scenes... but does it even matter? I'm thinking no.
Fix it. That's all that matters.
Aren't you tired of hearing the same shit, year after year, about your screw ups? I am.
Amen 18:39!
I think the fix would be getting rid of Julie and whatever the other one's name is.
I doubt the owners are going to get rid of themselves.
This is off topic, but I can't help myself and I think you all might find this interesting. While doing a Google search for the right way to order my Starbucks drink next time, I came across what looks to be a Starbucks smack forum. Basically, the baristas are smacking us customers.
Boy do I feel like a stupid customer now...I really don't know the right way to order my drink and apparently I am expected to know all the terms and order it correctly (and perfectly) every time...
http://www.ihatestarbucks.com/bb/
Yeah, let's face it. PTI is no longer a new company or even a small company by stamping company standards.
GKD is smaller than PTI by far. Their brick and mortar store closed a couple years back and now it's only online with 1 or 2 people doing all the work. Gina blogged that they make their rubber stamps in their shop now. They manage to get it right, so PTI take note! Please!
http://forum.papertreyink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31377
This is a great idea to just mail out the missing anniversary sets! Lol! If Papertrey discovers that people have lied just to get free sets then they can spend their time and resources to get them back.
hey no worries on the newest stamp set mistake. pti is so willing to let you pay to correct their mistake. just send a SASE and they'll send you the correct sentiment. right...
So now the customers have to send a self addressed AND stamped envelope to recieve the correct stamp from a set which was done incorrectly?!!!
http://forum.papertreyink.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31313
Nothing is ever their mistake. If it is their mistake it is up to the customer to prove it. If the customer proves it, then they are rude to point it out on the forum. If the customer proves it the customer has to be inconvenienced and/or pay for the correction. Then the customer has to wait, remind, complain, and look like a bitch until people think they are a bitch in order to get the problems corrected. They always turn it around to make the customers look like bad, whiny, greedy people. WHY does not Nichole cut her losses and run? She is being dragged through the mud and may never recover professionally.
Here is an idea:
So sorry we made a mistake. We are going to add a step to our proofing process so this never happens again. You don't have to do a thing. We will use our database to find every person who ordered this set and will automatically send out a replacement within 2 weeks. Also, to offset the inconvenience, you will receive a reward point automatically credited. You don't have to do a thing but watch for your stamp in the mail. We appreciate your patience.
Will this happen? Don't hold your breath unless you are suicidal.
Of course it won't happen 11:37. But that is the way it SHOULD happen, and would with any decent company.
11:34 mentions Nichole cutting her losses and leaving the company. I do wonder. Is she a victim in this or not? As an owner, I'd think she'd have some say, but I do know as well that the other 2 are family, so Nichole's input could be outvoted.
I also realized that the issues are quite likely hurting the other stamp designers. I have no way of knowing how PTI compensates them, but, I would think their income will be affected too. I don't think they would have much to say about company operations. Sad.
Now they have the customers turning against one another. I predict this company will not exist by next year at this time.
Who is turning against who?
SMH at PTI...
This just keeps getting gooder and gooder.
what is SMH?
nevermind, bet it is Shaking My Head
THIS is what pisses me off...
http://forum.papertreyink.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31382
Jennifer Elep-whatever "When I received an update from Julie last week, she anticipated all release orders being shipped by the end of business today, so yours from the 15th should already be on its way! HTH."
SURELY in customer service you should be able to confim if my order has shipped or not?? A vague 'should be' is NOT good enough
Thinking about Jane, Julie, Nichole and Jenn trying to come up with a solution to the misprinted stamp set reminds me of the "BP Spills Coffee" video on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM&ob=av3e
It's hilarious and I bet it sounds very much like the 4 of them in a meeting!
I was going to post this on the forum but it would have been removed right away.
hilarious 14:11...
14:11 - Yup, this is them. LOL
I'd like to say I'm surprised they're asking for a SASE to cover their screw up ... but I'm not.
OMG! That video is freaking hilarious!
I wish that I could post that video on the forum! LOL!
appalled....I don't know why but I still am AMAZED by PTI every day. Not their designs or their products. BY THEIR CRAP DECISIONS & STUFF UPS.
......I so want to post on the forum in a HUGE FONT - DONT BUY HERE
People are so freakin' stupid if they keep buying. STOP
Now there is a post begging for one die that is 47 days overdue. The freaking train has not only derailed but is now headed for the cliff overlooking the ocean.
From Jen:
"(don''t know if you know or not...I am an off-site employee. While I am backing up Dave during this heavy volume, I am no longer CS.)"
She isn't CS? What is her actual job now? I know it got a fancy title but still thought it was in CS. ???
^^^^^^
Of course Madame Snark herself had to mention that she didn't work in CS anymore. FFS, I think when there are this many problems it should be all hands on deck, no snark, just grovelling apologies for being an such a completely inept company.
I don't understand Jennifer's role at all, she's a glorified secretary sending 'while you were out' notes to Jane and Julie. Fucking ridiculous.
The hot topic should be what is Lil Miss Poledancer going to be changing her avatar back to ;p
Who is lil miss poledancer?
Little Miss T
Just watch. They will soon lock that thread.
I think FUBAR is the only way to describe it, or clusterfuck, I like both.
I think a "FUBARed clusterfuck" might be the most succinct way to describe PTI's operations.
Jenn is now Communications Director, which as far as I can tell means she directs communications to the owners and then back to the forum. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Saves them from having any actual contact with the little people who bought their country estates.
I'm not contributing to the country estate anymore either. What a shame. I love their paper!
And to think that most of this could have been prevented with some very simple measures and a lot of humility.
And ribbonshare girl delays again - and people are not happy. Surprise, surprise. Total waste of time....
Re: Jenn's comment that she is no longer CS, this is no time to be saying "it's not my job!" Seriously, people don't give a rip whose job it is, they just want some ANSWERS!! And if it's not your job, then whose job is it? And why aren't THEY responding to our questions? Whoever said it before, you're absolutely right - it should be ALL HANDS ON DECK to get this shiz figured out. But instead they all sit back and watch the ship sink. I'm not surprised on single bit by this mess - I saw this crap coming a mile away!! Nothing is going to change, people - not one damn thing! So they gave us flat labels - BIG EFF'ING DEAL!! We still don't have shipping options, now we don't even have the ability to track our packages, the new site is an absolute mess . . . the list goes on and on. They've double and triple entered items, so you have to plod through 40 pages to find a die. WTF?!! I've spent my rewards points, still waiting for my package (ordered 2/16), but will wait until hell freezes over. I don't give a damn anymore. I feel so bad for the poor people who are still waiting for last year's anniversary set. Somehow I fear that PTI will never make it right for those people. Mark my words.
If mailing this stamp with their own stamps bankrupts them then they are in worse trouble than we imagined. Oh, wait, maybe not. Maybe they really are ready to go under.
"postage" stamps
I call foul on the ribbon share as well.. i DOUBT people asked her to keep it open - I am SURE its cuz she is hoping more people will join so she ends up eating less of the extras... dumb.
PS... there are still openings in my embossing powder share... .0005 oz to each participant.
Aw, come on Donna. What did you want to say?
I don't trust anyone who wears transitions lens. Sorry, but that inbetween look always creeps me out. I hope ribbon share girl refunds their money pronto. Those share things are never worth it, IMO.
Pti should hire ribbon share girl, they both are full of excuses.
Did they ever announce blog hop winners?
Yes they did, on Nichole's blog.
I hate that the MIM winner is a 'random' entry, there were a number of better entries that should have been recognised for their creativity, but, I guess Nichole would be accused of choosing her 'favourites' gah!
Does anyone know if Nichole is censoring the comments on her blog? After she turned off comments after the release, I'm curious if she is taking special precautions. All of the MIM comments are overly positive.
Does anyone know if Nichole is censoring the comments on her blog? After she turned off comments after the release, I'm curious if she is taking special precautions. All of the MIM comments are overly positive.
I heard somewhere once that the opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy.
Perhaps the people that are so fed up and 'done' with it aren't even taking the time to comment/care any more. Bad or not. Only the ones who still love them are posting and they are still under the impression that PTI does no wrong.
They are probably the same people who will never see the message on the forum about the stamp set being wrong and sending in the SASE for their replacement...
I should make a video of myself tying a bow to illustrate how incredibly ridiculous that ribbon share BS is.
Oh but Trell, I need that video of you tying a bow! The other 500 videos of crafters tying bows just aren't working for me! Let me know when yours is ready!!!
LOL... I feel ABSOLUTELY the same way about transition lenses...
Trell, you have to tie a ribbon with ONLY the amount that ribbon share girl is hawking. Then post the link in her ribbon share post. It will have people running for the hills as you sputter, and cuss, and end up throwing your card (with the teeny bow with the loops coming undone, and the edges all frayed) across the room ;)
I just now saw the saga of "Simply You" set on PTI Forum and THE SASE Envelope idea. OMG!!!!!!! Everybody here is 100% right. I cannot just get over this.
Well, two people so far have asked for their money back for the postponed ribbon share ...
Not only have two people asked for their money back (approximately an hour after ribbonshare girl posted about the new delay), but she visited the board a few hours later and couldn't be bothered to post on the thread? Things that make you go hmmmm...
she finally replied twice, I had to LOLOLOL at this part:
The last thing I wanted to do was upset someone, especially since the last share went off without a hitch, (with the exception of moving and no internet to place order for a week).
What I find interesting is that the Simply You SS is still available in the store which means that people can still purchase the "defective" set. Common sense dictates you pull it until the corrected SS is available, right?
04:45 -- yeah, "without a hitch" - I think she is using the monies that she gets in and that is why she keeps postponing the date.
"I get paid only biweekly so my spending habits are limited to certain weeks of the month"
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I dunno, maybe if you are living that close to the edge of your budget, you shouldn't be running a group buy?? There are several open spaces in groups anyway, so any "latecomers" should be able to just buy any available ribbon from her on March 9, since she will have extras of those colors anyway, right?
So what other companies have new releases coming up? I know WMS is about to release.... what about Verve, WPlus9, Lawn Fawn, Gina K.... etc? Anyone see anything good coming out that I don't want to miss?? :)
MFT should be starting peeks for the March release this week.
Also, MFT is carrying cardstock again. I love it. It's nice heavy weight. And she just started carrying matching ribbon for the cardstock. Only one type so far, grosgrain. But it's an alternative for those who want matching CS & ribbon. And if I remember correctly, many of the CS colors have a pretty close match to a VersaMagic color for ink. Plus, in my experience, the shipping speed rocks.
4:55- As of 9:58am east coast time the Simply You stamp set is listed as Not Available.
From Jenn -
"This forum exists for this purpose, and we have always been very liberal with not censoring people. Yesterday, however, a line was crossed and has shown the need for a new Terms of Service for participation on this forum."
SO, what line was crossed?
I'm curious about the line too. I didn't see any attacks on each other, only a couple of people who called out Julie and Nichole.
On a similar note - I know there are 3 owners, and I know each has an area, but Jane is rarely mentioned. What does she do?!
Asking people to send a SASE to fix PTI's error is astounding. Puts the ASS in asinine.
9:03- Jenn just posted an update that they are going to send out the replacement stamps to everyone that ordered the set, no SASE required. At least it is a step in the right direction.
I don't get the ribbon share. You get ONE yard (3 feet) of ribbon? Why? A 5 yard spool is only $3. It's not like it breaks the bank. And 5 yards will do lots of cards, bows and even scrapbook pages. 3 feet? Um, one page and maybe a couple of cards? I don't get it. Maybe I use too much ribbon.
I think it is because they want a collection with every color and every style, which would be hundreds of dollars in rolls.
I thought Donna said she was leaving the forum? That was a short 3 days ago and now she's back already. Oh the drama.
Ted turned off his PMs on the board because he will no longer be needing them.
Huh?
Did someone send him a bad message?
I don't see the drama. She just needed the title of a set.
^^9:45, I thought the same thing. Now she's back. And Miss T is gone. Wanted to say "don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you."
Ted mentioned that he would be looking for greener pastures (or something like that) after somebody posted that he was just complicating things with his suggestions. I think that it was on the Attn Jenn or Nichole thread.
I think it would be funny if someone sent Ted a nasty PM. Karma at it's finest. He is pretty infamous for his own nasty-grams.
10:20- good one, almost spewed my soup laughing "don't let the door hit you" gotta stop reading smack on my lunch break!
Whether someone leaves in a huff and doesn't come back or leaves in a huff and returns shortly thereafter, they are drama.
I never understood the whole declaration of leaving. Do they think people will be clamoring for them to stay? Or do they see it necessary to flip their hair and say hmph while walking from the playground? Whatev. I don't do drama. If I don't like something I leave. If the company's CS sucks I don't buy from them. Simple and drama free.
I love coming here for some good laughs; ya'll are a HOOT! Even though I'm DONE with PTI, I still get so pissed off reading about their ineptitude, probably because of the thousands of dollars I spent with them over the years, kind of makes me feel like a fool/sucker. Some people say "oh I HOPE they can get their act together", but I think I've passed that point. I hope the ship sinks on the scale of the TITANIC, never to be salvaged again! Does that make me a mean bitch?
What is Ted trying to tell us with his new avatar???
So the communications director does not need to communicate to customers? I want a job like that.
Sigh. I should know better. I ordered on the 15th, before the mess happened. All older, in stock items.
And here it is the 28th. No package. No tracking number. No response from CS.
Just saw a thread about gray card stock/ink in the forum... where can I buy the amuse ink from?
A Muse ink is the same as Fresh Ink. You can get it at impressrubberstamps.com and they ship the next day.
You can get A Muse Studio ink from a rep or through their website. Technically A Muse and Fresh Inks are made at the same factory but the color offerings are different.
A Muse has a bunch of grays that are not offered by Fresh.
Fresh Ink has 3 grays with a putty gray recently released.
I had someone I used as a rep before with Amuse, but I think she left the company. Can any of you recommend someone reputable?
I'll check the Impression inks in the mean time. Thanks.
Or Impress... whatever. lol.
How come customers can't track their packages? I thought PTI insisted on DC for every package, plus some of them are going ups which has also has tracking. No end of customers are complaining that they don't know anything about their packages until they actually arrive?
omg I've been away from the PTI forum for ages and haven't bought anything from them in forever. Can't believe how many complaint threads there are. And can't believe they still sound totally inept in every respect. It's no longer just a few either, there is an avalanche coming down on them.
Honestly people, it's not worth it. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
You can get nice cardstock lots of places. Their stuff is too thick for many practical purposes anyway. I'm glad I'm not in to needing everything matching. I get stuff from all different vendors.
Stamps! I never could get over the fuss people make about their stamps in the first place and I don't own a single set. And I'm telling you, even with all the different sellers that I regularly deal with, I've never had a single issue in years AND I get my stuff timely. Get over the obsession with PTI, like a lot of fads, it's just not that good for you.
Hope Stephinka is feeling better soon ... :)
19:13 - I have an A Muse Studio rep. She's amazing - her name is Lori Barnett. Her website is here: https://www.amusestudio.com/loribarnett. The A Muse inks are also outstanding (as are the Fresh Inks) - quick drying pigment ink with great color palettes and vibrant color. Hope this helps!
What's the price of inkpads from A Muse?
(sorry, don't want to load the whole catalog onto my phone just to see)
23:03 - They are $5.95 each. Amazing service. I've ordered one day and had the items delivered to me via UPS two days later. No lie! If you place an order over $150, you should contact your A Muse rep so that you get the benefit of free and half-price product.
Thanks for the Amuse referral! I like that you can buy their pads in collections.
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