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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 325 of 325I think Rick couldn't help himself and knew exactly what he was doing. I think he just showed how much disdain the Heskamps have for their customers.
I almost think it was intentional. Get it stirred up so that PTI would have "a reason" to pull that thread. Hides all that CS MESS from potential customers.. Think about it. But, I am not sure they (pti owners) are that clever. Hmmm.....???
I just want my order. My order that I placed cashing out my rewards. And then I am going to post something that'll get me banned. Guns blazin', bitches!
I'm confused. Did sewcrazy just borrow OMG's avatar, or is that OMG's new name? But sewcrazy has been around before? 230 posts?
sewcrazy borrowed OMG's avatar in tribute to OMG. Maybe? ;)
I think everyone should borrow OMG's avatar and post in that thread.
My "cash out my rewards" order arrived today. So now I can get banned for defending someone who needs defending.
I have also just received notice that I have been banned too, although my previous posts are there.I got banned from SCS 9 years ago for making one negative comment about SU.
I suggest mockingjay avatars or OMA avatars to keep the presence known. Also, we will recognize one another there that way too.
Okay, now I'm pissed. All I posted was "It's hard to judge whether disrespectful comments have been posted when posts are deleted so quickly." BAM. I'm banned too. Really? Uncloaking now. Proud to be one of you guys.
You know how at the bottom of the forum it tells you how many people are logged on, and the highest amount on-line at one time???
Maybe they should add the amount of people banned every day!
Amazing what happens thanks to one hot-head. Dawn seems to be the only DT cheerleader that's backing up Rick's rudeness and disrespect towards paying customers. Wonder if the others are refusing to get involved because they know that the Heskamps are a bunch of asshats who treat everyone like crap.
OMG and Guatelicia were banned in record time. Rick boots posters off faster than Survivor. I bet he and Julie have a hit list of people to ban. Wonder who's next?
My comment on that thread was there for less than one minute before I was banned. Guess we know where the customer service energy is going today.
Chis Simon just got banned too.
Just curious...for those that got banned, can you still place an order or were you banded from the store too?
Do they ban you from the store too? (LOLOL)
Nope, I can still go to the store but I cannot even see the forum without a proxy.
Just checked, and the store will still let me log in. I'm sure they'd still take my money, but damned if I'll give them any more.
Banned and uncloaking too. I haven't even posted in the last several hours. I received a note from someone saying they are reading this board and tracking IP numbers here and banning us that way.
I am sure I will still be on the list to get all the newsletters, etc. to help me buy. I am DONE!! I am also thinking of posting something about it on my blog but not sure how to approach it.
I'm posting here and there so that's not true.
They just banned the proxy I used after only one viewing of the board.
Maybe it depends on what you have said here.
Well, I'm disgusted, to say the least, over the recent bans and all the other uncalled for drama happening at the hands of PTI. It just proves to me that the forum isn't there for the customers (and I get having ground rules for any forum, but IMO none of those were overstepped today), but for PTI to do whatever they wish with it and try to keep their "image" and if you sneeze in a way they don't like...poof! you're gone. Sick.
Wonder how much it costs for a full page ad in Paper Crafts magazine. I'd love to write an open letter to PTI and have it printed in that mag!
I think it's time that I go to my blog and edit out all of the free advertising that I've given them over the past few years. I'll leave the photos, but their name and links to the store are history.
Chris, I did that a long time ago, but am going to go back through and be sure I got everything.
PaperCrafts would never publish something anti-PTI. Not when Cath and Nichole are besties.
How are these banning notices coming? Just in your inbox on the forum?
They just wiped out 100% of my reward points. I had quite a few. Gone.
And the cannons fire again and again and again. I guess we have to come back as muttations.
Y'all realize that the PTI PTB read here, don't you?
What about posting this classic PTI fustercluck on SCS and 2Peas? I think those Unicorn mother lovers should know what blatent disregard PTI has for their "valued" customers! Fancy banning folks for just reading. Shit.
How can people be banned for just reading?
Maybe it is true that they are collecting our IP's from this smack blog and banning all of us that way.
Is that their new strategy? Ban everyone who asks a real question about customer service issues or supports someone who asks the question? Well, that will make the forum all full of rainbows and sunshines, won't it!
I'm still posting here and there so they are not banning just based on people posting here. I've not been nice either.
awww...sewcrazy changed her avitar to "Irish Inside." If that caught on in a widespread manner, it just might piss off the PTB.
They just wiped out 100% of my reward points. I had quite a few. Gone.
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I don't believe this. I think you are a troll trying to get the smack blog riled up.
I don't give a flying fuck if the PTI PTB read here!
I guess I don't know enough about computers because I didn't know that anyone can see an IP address that easily...
I would love to take my Free Thank You set and mail it back to them, but they are honestly not worth the time, money and effort.
Amazing how they can't do anything on a timely manner, but they can see a post and ban you in a couple of seconds!
I saw this over on Splitcoast. I know Chris (CDJKSSS) to be very diplomatic and well-spoken. Hardly a troublemaker. At this rate will they have anyone left to ban?
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"At least three people (myself included) have been "permanently banned" from PTI's forum today. My sin? I posted saying that it was hard to judge if disrespectful comments were being posted on the board when posts are deleted so quickly. My comment stayed there for less than one minute before I was banned. Draconian measures? Judge for yourself."
I deleted all my blog posts that utilized PTI product. I only have a few followers, but still, it's the principle.
You know what would be lovely? If other companies posted an open invitation to new crafters (those from the dark side)to try their products and customer services.I'm sure Gina K could word something classy....
Sorry Chris - I am a little slow to the party. I was so shocked to see YOU banned of all people.
I was one of the big spenders if you call about $500 a month for 5 years, a big spender. I am taking my money to Waltzng Mouse and Ellen Hutson and some of the newer companies. I am taking Nichole off my Google Reader.
Color me confused. Barbara wasn't banned? she is still posting
Yes, she and Chris S and Donna C were banned. Sewcrazy is using her avatar.
It seems to me that users have been banned not for speaking their opinions, but for colluding to intentionally hurt PTI's business by way of negative posts on the forum. I believe they call that "tortious interference".
If your intention is to be disruptive on the forum, or otherwise detract from the over-all theme of sharing crafting ideas and promoting a positive online experience, they will ban you.
But what the hell do I know....
I have been completely candid on 2Peas and SCS. I will tell everyone that will listen, what a fraudulent company PTI is. It's the truth!
Ladies! There is NO way PTI can get out IP addresses from visiting THIS blog. Think about it, this blog works just like yours. Only YOU can see the IP addresses that visit your blog, nobody else.
That person who emailed the banned user was spreading rumors. Not possible for PTI to get that info.
@16:42 - EXACTLY!
Yes, 16:42 there are a few shit stirrers here as well.
The banning seems kind of random, no? I wonder if they are only banning people that have been given a warning in the past or maybe just those that they view as causing trouble today?
I have never had a warning.
Ladies! There is NO way PTI can get out IP addresses from visiting THIS blog. Think about it, this blog works just like yours. Only YOU can see the IP addresses that visit your blog, nobody else.
That person who emailed the banned user was spreading rumors. Not possible for PTI to get that info.
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Well, a conspiracy theorist would say "What if SmackerIII *is* the PTI owners/Rick?!" But I think probably not; otherwise, more forum members would be gone. Someone is trying to stir the shit with Donna by saying that they are tracking IPs from here. Could they see cookies, though? Track where you were before you visited the forum? Hell, if they can't get a website running decently how can they even begin to track cookies on individual users. I'm not well-versed enough on cookies to even be able to answer that question.
I wonder if it is Rick who's on the rag today or Dawn. Or Nichole. Obviously someone is. Or maybe it's Julie and she's screetching at Rick "ban those bitches or the blow jobs stop!" That would explain why the banning is happening so quickly.
^^^ LOL.
The email came from a trusted PTI member whom I will not name. She knows A LOT about computers and such while I know nothing about that kind of thing.
I will also be removing all PTI from my Pinterest as that is also free advertising.
I think at this stage in the game Rick (and whoever else) is banning people they perceive stirring up shit. Plain and simple. No warnings, just gone.
I am not blaming you Donna, it is my opinion the person who emailed you doesnt' know what they are talking about.
AND I have seen several people chime in here that they figured out who PTI Smacker is (and I have my suspicions as well), it's not PTI. LOL!
They can track where you came from. So if you were here on this site and then went to their site, they can flag your IP that way. I have been a rabble rouser. But I keep my tabs open and don't go there from this site. And I haven't been banned...yet ;)
But this site doesn't have hot links. Doesn't everyone have to open up a new window to access the PTI forum?
I always cut the url pasted here and paste it into an open window. Not sure that would have any trace of this site or not.
Doesn't have to have links. They can track the site you came from to get to theirs period.
For the record, I never received any warning, and I don't think I have ever posted anything particularly snarky on the forum. Slightly snippy, perhaps, but nothing extreme.
I posted my comment earlier today, then went back less than a minute later to refresh the thread and got a screen saying that I was banned. No PM, no email, nothing.
"But I keep my tabs open and don't go there from this site. And I haven't been banned...yet ;)"
THIS is probably why I haven't been banned yet!
Wow - a gal can't miss a day or there is too much to catch up on! Hello, Chris Simon ... "Whaddya in for?"
I was banned without warning a week or so ago. I have no regrets about my post. Its my honest opinion that they have gone completely into the toilet. I hope I shed light on that for at least a few people before I was booted. I had already stopped buying anyway.
Chris - maybe it's time for another DFW stamp gathering. They certainly can't censor us in person! Lol.
Sadly, those that are getting banned are having the offending posts removed as well. That way, it can remain smiles and sunshine on the boards.
Too bad they can't control SCS.
Does anyone have a graphic skills and can make a graphic I can pin on Pinterest about the craptasticness of PTI? Something like "Keep Calm and Stop Shopping From Papertrey Ink"?
And then maybe we can all change our avatar to that. If you haven't been banned that is.
If you have been banned you cannot access your PM's which means I have a person who wants to buy from me who cannot contact me, nor I them.
Here is the graphic 17:46
http://oi43.tinypic.com/1olpo5.jpg
You're welcomed. :)
A question--When you use Papertrey products on a blog and do not give credit, can they come after you? How is it any different from buying fabric or using paint and not telling the brands if you post photos of what you made on your blog?
Perfect! Thanks for the graphic!
I just posted a PTI warning on FB. Hopefully all my friends will read it and may pass it on.
Another thing... if you go to their FB page and click on everyone (right under the pics), you can see that several people have posted CS questions and are being ignored. I posted a reply to every single one of them telling them to join the forum. I feel so bad that they are being ignored and probably in the dark about what is going on.
Thanks for the Keep Calm sign. Pinned it! :)
Banned in two minutes?!? Do Julie and Rick the prick have a hit list? Seems they may have posters they're just dying to ban for life. *OMG*'s post wasn that bad or a personal attack. And I loved Guatelica's response to Dawn. Just the right punt of sugar coated snark. Funny, the PTI crew don't like to be on the receiving end of it. LOL
Let's post this graphic on FB and blogs and anywhere we can.
I just found out that they have an area for customer recommendations on the right hand side of their FB page. There are 19 total and a couple of them are negative.
Pinned. Thanks!
18:00, you are not required to list the supplies that you use when posting cards to your blog or in any gallery. They can't come after you.
The only time you may get into a grey area is when you sell cards and the company you use has an Policy requiring you to mention them on the back. But many do not follow that rule and nothing happens.
Put it on my blog, my FB, and pinned it!
If you edit the pin link to www.papertreyink.com then anyone else who pins from pti will see it as a suggested pin
How do you do that? Just in the comment below it?
18:23 - thanks! Just linked it to PTI.
Also, I would love to visit your blog, Donna C. :)
I figured it out. Thanks.
rubystamper@blogspot.com
Here is a link to the pin if you just want to repin it:
http://pinterest.com/pin/43206477645205008/
Thank you for the link! I just pinned it.
Donna - I am loving your pin boards and blog! Thanks for the links. :)
In case the PTI PTB are reading here, I just want to go on record as saying that I've purposely kept my opinions about the customer service issues to the forum and (anonymously) on this blog, until now. Today, I lost all respect for the company. I will be telling my story (and only my own story) far and wide. No more money, no more free advertising on my blog, and no more silence. By booting people from the forum, you've removed all ability for us to attempt to make our voices heard through channels that you control. So now we have to use other means.
Thanks, omathgoddess.
Donna C - I can't see your blog! I wonder if I am doing something wrong. It takes me to the blogger sign in page.
The link works for me. Not sure what is wrong. rubystamper.blogspot.com
oops, maybe it was the @ sign?
Carmen, the address that Donna posted had an "@" accidentally where a "." should be - try this instead - rubystamper.blogspot.com
Thanks! I can't believe that I didn't notice the @.
Someone posted the following in the comment section of NH's blog:
Nichole, are you aware that Rick has banned a number of loyal customers today over his rude response on the locked/removed threads. There is a widespread movement to boycott your company because of this. There are currently 4 boards of other companies and 3 blogs drumming up support for this. Just thought you should know that there is going to be some fallout. This is not to upset you, but just so you know what is going on as I have a feeling Rick is doing this behind your back.
Where is sir farts a lot when you need him?
Did you see Joan B's new avatar? An old-fashioned train gone off the tracks.
Can someone help me see the PTI-related chatter on the 2peas blog? Do I need to be a member to read it?
^^^ site, not blog. Doh! And, thanks!
Did Rick actually ban people or was it Nichole?
If it was Nichole then that comment on her blog won't do anything.
^^^ I'm just the messenger. Someone named Ally posted the comment. I thought I would share, as I expect it to be deleted as soon as NH sees it.
I can't find the 2peas thread either.
Also just posted in NH's comments. (I wonder how long before this is airbrushed over with sunshine and rainbows??) :
To Ally above. Nichole posted on the forum that she deleted the threads. She was also the one who issued board warnings ... to those who got them at all, that is. Some were banned without warning, and without violation of the TOS. So, not only is Nichole already aware of the situation, she heartily endorses it. This is the kind of thing customers don't see because the truth has no voice. It is banned on the forum. The CS contact has just quit. The CS emails are deleted. Buyer beware.
From Nichole's blog comments-
To Ally above. Nichole posted on the forum that she deleted the threads. She was also the one who issued board warnings ... to those who got them at all, that is. Some were banned without warning, and without violation of the TOS. So, not only is Nichole already aware of the situation, she heartily endorses it. This is the kind of thing customers don't see because the truth has no voice. It is banned on the forum. The CS contact has just quit. The CS emails are deleted. Buyer beware.
LOL! Sorry, I didn't read comment # 300 before I posted.
OMG! I thought things were getting better but they have taken yet another downward turn ... so sad as I so want this company to succeed and become all the better despite or as a result from growing from the issues. :(
Same ol' shit just different people involved... when will it end PTI? WHEN??
One thing I have seen people say a few times is that former PTI DT members even spoke up about their "customer service" email that was sent out...does anyone have a link to this? Which former DT members spoke up?
The former DT members that spoke up did so in the comments to a FB post by Becky Oehlers about the time of the March release. The ones I remember were Lauren Meaders, Geny Cassidy, and Niki Estes.
Looks like Jennifer E did quit! She "She has had some amazing opportunities arise in a different career field which she has opted to take advantage of" Posted on Nichole's blog.
Yeah RIGHT! lol! I don't blame her one bit. I would have left long ago. Not that this excuses what a total bitch she was to customers.
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OK, I never go to the PTI FB page, but did tonight to see what if anything was said about the forum bannings.
Couldn't help but notice this biotch, Carmen Moser posting on EVERYONE's question post "join the forum and ask", "you should join the forum and ask this there". WTF? That girl needs a smack down! The company FB page is perfectly acceptable place to ask questions!
OK, I may be wrong here, but I believe that I read on a PTI complaint thread on SCS or another forum that that was one of us smackers posting the "Join the forum and ask!" posts on PTI's Facebook page, so that non-forum customers with issues wouldn't be left ignorant of Papertrey's ongoing problems and poor performance.
I *think* that's the case. Maybe it was Guatelicia? I honestly can't remember; I've been hopping back and forth reading too many places today! LOL
I just added the graphic to my blog and facebook as well! Buyer beware for sure!
Sorry you guys that got "pruned" today by Nichole after Rick the Dick had a tantrum. Because I saw this coming last week when missyC and others were pruned. I had a feeling that this was going to be part of their 3 pronged strategy,
1. Employ DT cheerleaders to spread unicorns and rainbows and sunshiney up the forum, 2. Press delete on all the irksome email complaints 3. Ban the troublesome members and act like nothing happened except a small, vocal, mean-spirited bunch of hags got out of hand.
They never had any real intention of changing because the rot is too deeply ingrained, it's in the very roots of the business: Julie, Rick, Nichole, and I suspect, Dawn.
Just so you guys know to be very careful.....Even with a most basic understanding (Rick) they certainly can track the origin website of all incoming IP addresses and ban people that visit this blog that way.
So for instance if you are on this blog and click on your bookmark or type in the url for their forum, they can see which IPs came to them via this blog.
This is why when I am on a smack blog I always keep it in a seperate window and don't link to anywhere else from that same window. So watch out those that haven't been pruned yet to keep your browsing under control.
What assholes. They must have had Guatelicia on a watch list.
WARNING: If you have so much as said "boo" on the board you are on a watch list for the big boot!!!
Solid advice. And may I add that perhaps anyone who has been banned and manages to start a new profile should keep their new ID and new threads/posts on the down-low, at least for a while?
This blog is obviously being read by a lot of folks, some of whom probably walk into a room with Darth Vader music following them.
It's also totally bogus to delete entire threads rather than just the offending posts. I've not known them do on any other board I've posted. They only delete entire threads either at the request of the OP or because the offensive post IS the OP. Otherwise, they just delelte the seperate posts that violate the TOS.
So it is quite clear to me that they are using this as an excuse to delete a whole thread that is in fact a terrible embarrassment to them. And that is because its existence is a stunning indictment of their ineptitude and inability to face head on with any degree of effectiveness the most mundane of CS issues.
I fully expect they will soon revert to telling everyone who posts to the board about an issue to "email CS" instead of providing help. And then my dears, you will have a kill situation where all new customer complaint threads (and perhaps members) are summarily deleted. Wanna take any bets??
Please tell me exactly how you are all helping?
LOL!
Wow! Things certainly were quiet until yesterday.
Somehow I'm not suprised that Head IT Monkey Rick went on a banning free-for-all. He has proven skills in this area. Maybe it's supposed to cover-up the fact that he has zero skills in web site building.
I am sorry to those that were banned. This proves that PTI has no interest in expanding their petri dish experiment of delivering real customer service.
LOL @ Joan's train off the track avatar. And telling someone to just contact customer service. Hilarious.
Anonymous said...
OK, I never go to the PTI FB page, but did tonight to see what if anything was said about the forum bannings.
Couldn't help but notice this biotch, Carmen Moser posting on EVERYONE's question post "join the forum and ask", "you should join the forum and ask this there". WTF? That girl needs a smack down! The company FB page is perfectly acceptable place to ask questions!
26 March 2012 21:45
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Yeah! Calling me a name really makes you look good!
I saw that people's questions were not being answered and I just told them what PTI has previously posted on their FB page. PTI went as far as telling people on FB that they will not answer CS questions there, that's what the forum is for.
Here is PTI's post on their own FB page:
Papertrey Ink.com
As has been mentioned on our forum and our newsletter, Customer Service is experiencing significant delays due to volume. Your patience is appreciated while we get to each person's questions/issues. Please understand that we view Customer Service too important to allow Facebook to be a substitute.
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PTI sucks ...i order some stuff from them on 22nd of last month using all my rewards(as i wanted to say goodbye to them) the order got returned and still waiting for reshipping as they r saying they haven't received it...so so frustrated. Isn't their any organization where we can register complain against such services?
is there any organization where we can file complain against pti services?
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